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doyouknowwhoiam3383

bounty lol everybody does it. im a big time 49er fan and or D had a bounty on diff players also everybody does it
303 Days ago

...JM8CH10...

Missed out on the unbelievable fun.
301 Days ago

CSM. HB J-dogg

Yeah goodell really flex his muscle he suspended mickey loomis just so benson could re assign him. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8282072/new-orelans-hornets-agree-coach-monty-williams-extension
302 Days ago

thebuckeyeryguy

If the players' union ever takes over control of the league, you will end up with Major League Football, where only the major market teams will be competitive. Of course, the salary cap will be done away with and "guaranteed money" will be flowing all over the place. I will take Goodell's type of dictatorship over the self-serving NFLPA anyway. Free-market capitalism is great, but it doesn't work in sports leagues, unless you're a fan of the Yankees, Red Sox, Braves or Cardinals. Same goes for the NBA, where Commisioner Stern can't restrain his giddyness over Dwight Howard going to the Lakers.
302 Days ago

The Mississippi Kid15

St.Louis is not a major market. They are a well run baseball team.
302 Days ago

i.Brobot

Lol.
302 Days ago

CSM. HB J-dogg

When goodell becomes the product he can have that power. There will be no NFL if the players dont play. They are the product.
302 Days ago

smok6666

This board is dead we had some fun last weekend with the mods and the whole chad j story. Anybody still awake
303 Days ago

smok6666

Dallas is gonna win this year. U wanted racist jokes I was gonna ask I any of those dumb as ses were on this board who live in a city below sea level and stayed home during a hurricane
303 Days ago

Icurnvs29

Thanks a lot man......peace.
301 Days ago

i.Brobot

Envious, i saw part of a post last week. I am keeping your family in my prayers. Peace...
302 Days ago

Icurnvs29

And those who didn't have transportation had to take a bus to Houston. Id rather take my chances with Katrina.
302 Days ago

Burnt2.something

That's not racists there was cops national guardsmen fire fighters disabled old people and reporters that stayed and all were of different races... But judging from your dialog you're not that intelligent so I won't hold that comment against you
302 Days ago

smok6666

You from NO? U a who dat?
303 Days ago

jayhb76

Goodell. Stalin. Hitler. Castro. Same shiet.
303 Days ago

Burnt2.something

Oakland Raiders are winning the SB and if anyone disagrees then they're genetically deformed F�ggots
303 Days ago

Burnt2.something

Bosstown and crankybostonian are the same person according to my sources.
303 Days ago

i.Brobot

? Maybe theres only 5-6 different people on all of espn?
303 Days ago

Burnt2.something

Boards kinda dead tonight. In that case Bostonians are all f�gg�ts goodell is secretly having an affair with Tom Brady and barrack Obama is an illegal immigrant
303 Days ago

richochetbiscuit

So the NFLPA says that Goodell is lying........duh.....hello? He's a liar isn't he? That's what they do.
303 Days ago

Diver FC

So, Goodell asserts that he was ready to pass judgement before 21 March. That will be problematic for the NFL. Fujita testified that Goodell told him otherwise on/about 20 March. Fujita's testimony aligns to his own June press statement (before this became a issue). Smith's testimony also disagrees with Goodell. Lastly, Goodell's statement does not agree with his own statements to the press in April (which may be explained to some degree). All this hurts his credibility to the judge. The other issue is that it shows bias/partiality. He was ready to rule before ever interviewing the accused. Does that seem to meet minimum standards of fairness?
303 Days ago

bgc83

This may help you better understand what is going on. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/17/smith-fujita-dispute-goodells-sworn-statement-on-march-21-issue/ Fujita's 6/24 statement http://sports.yahoo.com/news/fujita-sees-bounty-probe-part-180745481--nfl.html
302 Days ago

Diver FC

The 30th is a critical ruling; however, it will be chaired by a 3 member appeals panel (fairly well qualified folks). They will decide whether the players should be disciplined for pay-for-performance, which would take the decision away from Goodell, or for conduct detrimental, which would affirm that Goodell has the power to judge.
303 Days ago

i.Brobot

Got it. So when is Burbank expected to rule, is that the end of this month? That would seem a critical ruling.
303 Days ago

i.Brobot

Where did Goodell say he was ready to pass judgement on arch 20/21
303 Days ago

Diver FC

Goodell provided a sworn declaration to the federal judge stating that he was ready to hand down player discipline before 21 Mar. http://www.latimes.com/sports/football/nfl/la-sp-nfl-report-20120817,0,2384643.story
303 Days ago

i.Brobot

One question, maybe you can provide a link? Is it just Fujitas word that Goodell said he was ready to rule on March 20/21, before any interviews?
303 Days ago

i.Brobot

Who is "they" ?
303 Days ago

richochetbiscuit

Never read the story you posted.....was referring to the 'copypasta' in your username.
303 Days ago

richochetbiscuit

Haven't been on in a couple of days.....been deep sea fishing. This is my first encounter with Tony K......bozo likes to copy paste though...thought you may be dat lil biooootch because of the 'copypasta'. Sorry.
303 Days ago

i.Brobot

And walt is heisenburg.
303 Days ago

Burnt2.something

Tony K is Bruce Willis
303 Days ago

richochetbiscuit

"they" refers to liars. "He's" refers to Goodell. Hope this helps. "Idiot" refers to Bozotown aka Tony K.
303 Days ago

chris80015

As long as Goodell remains in charge, the NFL is going to see its fan base erode and his reputation take a big hit. Until he appoints an independent third party in these or any suspensions this dance will continue. The problem is he is too stupid to see that.
303 Days ago

i.Brobot

@chris, he was given the power by the owners when he was hired, why would he relenquish it now?
303 Days ago

Boudin_n_gumbo

How's it goin....
303 Days ago

Aggie_Fan_1111

Please grade my fantasy draft? 6 points per touchdown and 1 point per completion/reception. 1 (5)Matthew Stafford QB 2. (16) Jimmy Graham TE 3. (25) Greg Jennings WR 4. (36) Michael Turner RB 5. (45) Darren Sproles RB 6. (56) Brandon Lloyd WR 7. (65) Reggie Bush RB 8. (76) Vincent Jackson WR 9. (85) Chicago DEF 10. (96) Denarius Moore WR 11. (105) Peyton Hillis RB 12. (116) Dan Bailey K 13. (125) Michael Floyd WR 14. (136) Owen Daniels TE 15. (145) Ryan Tannehill Q
303 Days ago

smok6666

A on QB. You have to get the best RB left in round 2 if you take a QB in round 1. Very risky.
303 Days ago

Steelersville

When this story first came out, I thought the Saints were guilty, because I didn't think Goodell would publicly accuse without proof or due process. As this farther unfolds, it seems that Goodell is using his power in the CBA only, to justify his actions and there was no real proof. He also used the media to gain support for his actions. This is something the NFLPA should fight as it affects many issues, not just bounties.
303 Days ago

bgc83

http://www.stradleylaw.com/saints-bountygate-litigation-the-death-reason/
302 Days ago

blues_messiah

Wow. A Steeler fan who is anti-Goodell. Big surprise.
303 Days ago

Steelersville

Wallace Who? Already moved on.
303 Days ago

blues_messiah

Oh I agree. That's why I made the comment. Steeler fans hate Goodell way before this, so your opinion here is a bit biased my friend. By the way, does Antonio Brown overtake Wallace this season?
303 Days ago

Steelersville

He was after the Steelers way before the Saints. King Roger picked on our team while Rooney was away in Ireland. Now the true King is back.
303 Days ago

blues_messiah

Sounds like a case of "He Said...He Said." And IF the NFL's contention is true, of course Goodell would have acted like he hadn't already made up his mind. He wouldn't be able to get away with saying he's withholding penalties on the NFLPA request. So this is all meaningless.
303 Days ago

bgc83

What most people fail to realize is what Rodger use to do for the NFL. I keep seeing so many people write about him being a lawyer which he is not. He was first hired to the NFL as an intern. From there he was an assistant in the public relations department. Rodger loves to talk to the camera and that will be what causes his down fall.
302 Days ago

Diver FC

Credibility, which can be a factor in court, is at stake. Goodell's asserts the he was ready to decide before 21 March. Fujita testified that Goodell told him otherwise. Fujita's testimony also aligns to his own June press statement. De Smith's testimony also disagrees with Goodell. Lastly, Goodell's statement does not agree with statements to the press in April. All this points to the fact that Goodell MAY be playing word games as it conveniences him. This can harm his credibility before the judge regarding the NLF's entire position.
303 Days ago

Diver FC

If a judge believes that one side is being dishonest with part of it's testimony, it goes to the heart of the credibility of the witness. If Goodell is not being honest with the judge or public, it can support Vilma's case that Goodell, as the arbitrator, was not being open and honest when executing his responsibilities under the CBA.
303 Days ago

blues_messiah

"May" is not enough for a legal overturning of collective bargaining law.
303 Days ago