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shakenbake0003

F the yankees. Felix is gonna sign another contract. Watch. Hes loyal, doesnt follow the selfish blueprint most people around baseball seem to think every star should fall in line to.
273 Days ago

marks04857

you know whats so impressive? He had no $@%!$@% crowd behind him. I don't think i've ever seen a more empty perfect game in my life. Thats so tough
274 Days ago

SoundersHawksMariners

22,000 46% filled. I seen more empty seats a lot, and not just at the Safe.
274 Days ago

greenbeagle13

Nobody watches me do my job, but I do it very well anyway.
274 Days ago

jj11nfg

The Kings Court was packed as always though
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

it was noon on a wednesday
274 Days ago

llkayjay

Whatever, he will be a Yankee in no time. FTS.
274 Days ago

monarchist

The Yankees have nothing to trade. So they'll have to wait at least a couple years.
274 Days ago

marinerz51

In his contract King Felix has the YANKEES and 9 other teams as teams he can block a trade to.
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

yeah you said that before the deadline too didn't you? PLAYERS DON'T WANT TO SIGN WITH THE YANKEES TILL AFTER THEIR PRIME
274 Days ago

bigbin324

You can't tell Yankee fans that they're not going to get any big name player in baseball. They think it is their birthright to have a current all star at every position and a former one backing them all up. I guess they don't remember 2 years ago when Cliff Lee turned them and more money down to go pitch in a place that he likes. Who's to say King Felix doesn't do the same?
274 Days ago

Kychest1

CC Sabathia was the last big name pitcher to go to the yanks. That was 4 years ago. The M's said they won't trade Felix & he says he doesn't want to go anywhere. I'd say the odds are really stacked against the yanks.
274 Days ago

lajre

Mariners ownership will pay whatever he wants.. they will not want to deal with the fan backlash and PR nightmare.. he is the most respected and probably only star in seattle sports right now. Marshawn "the beast" a Lynch a very distant 2nd.
274 Days ago

Shigs88

It honestly depends but I wouldn't b surprised if he ends up in the NL
274 Days ago

lajre

It stops at Pineda & Ichiro!
274 Days ago

lajre

I would vomit, just a little bit :)
274 Days ago

halfcab72

Couldn't happen to better guy. Felix deserves this without a doubt. Few men in baseball are as loyal as this man is. This being said I cant blame him if he took the massive offer that will come his way. Iif he ever became a free agent & the team stays in the cellar for the next few years
274 Days ago

Shigs88

Def one of the best pitchers in the majors and was about time he threw a perfect game... He's also got one of the nastiest sliders/curve I've ever seen. Hopefully he leaves Seattle so he could have a chance to win the world series with a good team
274 Days ago

Conmama8092

Felix Hernandez is the only pitcher in MLB history to pitch a perfect game, hit a grand slam, and win the Cy Young Award.
274 Days ago

lajre

ha awesome stat!
274 Days ago

robert--acevedo

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274 Days ago

bigbin324

Is that true? none of these guys hit a grand slam? that's pretty cool
274 Days ago

Yuniverse

That's a very good point (about being in AL).
274 Days ago

Conmama8092

Haha. I saw it too. Right field. Then he jogged around the bases like it was no big deal. It was funny.
274 Days ago

bigbin324

I live in NY so I saw the game where he hit the slam off of Santana. It was hilarious mostly cuz it looked like he's eyes were closed when he swung.
274 Days ago

Conmama8092

I heard it on KJR the local station in Seattle. Don Larsen has the perfect game and grand slam but no Cy Young. Plus playing in the AL he doesn't hit a lot so even more impressive. Very cool stat.
274 Days ago

1stballot

55W 64L
274 Days ago

lajre

Good point.. just a couple guys that can hit over .300 would be huge! You know you're in trouble when you're best hitter is Jaso the backup catcher! Good story though.. Jaso probably played himself into a nice little contract over the next few years. if not with us then someone else.
274 Days ago

lajre

That's the most frustrating part. Mariners had the best pitching staff in all of baseball in July and achieved Mariners club record but they simply don't have an offense at all. This time can do big things with a big bat or two.. Ichiro pay coming off the books next year and Figgins $9 mill next year will allow them to go after them, but probably need to bring in the fences to help get big bats in. What slugger will sign knowing their numbers will plummet?
274 Days ago

bigbin324

don't necessarily need a slugger, just guys that can hit for average and drive in the 5 runs a game necessary to win. Its not going to be easy to convincea slugger to come to a pitcher friendly park, but you don't really need a 35 HR guy to win
274 Days ago

bigbin324

They're still bad. I'm an M's fan and will always hope for better, but until they hit consistently all of their pitchers will be under appreciated. The simple fact that they're only 9 games under .500 with another HISTORICALLY bad offense says a lot
274 Days ago

monarchist

Historically bad was last year. This year their offense is merely tepid.
274 Days ago

BOC Bullitt

M's also in the tuffest division I believe.
274 Days ago

strizate2395

noooo question
274 Days ago

bigbin324

Go look at what he's done to the best teams in baseball over the last 2 months! The team sucks, but he's a dominant pitcher.
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

DATDucks _____ you should watch a little baseball before you try to talk about it
274 Days ago

americanfootballisboring2

There have been 3 perfect games this season. Really, dime a dozen. This ain't a big deal.
274 Days ago

Yuniverse

@americanfootball... Wow, showing your ignorance in color, aren't you?
274 Days ago

marinersblue96

Neither is the World Cup, when you have the Olympics and Euro Cup. It's really not special anymore.
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

23 perfect games in over 100 years? yeah a dime a dozen
274 Days ago

darksideofthewalrus

Another valid point. Yeah in the last few years, whatever steroid the new players are using are better for pitchers than batters, I guess.
274 Days ago

DATDucks

Buzzards555 Is this thread really happening? Both guys are nasty.....I would argue they were equal but one plays for a much better team. ----------- Is that why the Tigers got swept in Detroit by Seattle? How many rings does Verlander have again?
274 Days ago

Chipper Jones HoF 2018

2006 RoY and a big reason they won the American League pennant.
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

lol how many does felix have? I can't believe you would say that
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

its a bigger accomplishment then never being in the playoffs
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

I don't think anyone said Verlander had any you troll
274 Days ago

DATDucks

omg verlander has played in the playoffs... what an accomplishment
274 Days ago

DATDucks

I never said Felix had any, you troll
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

I like felix but how many rings does verlander have? how many playoff appearences does felix have?
274 Days ago

darksideofthewalrus

Don't be hating on Verlander; that guy is a monster.
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUO5UMvEw-4 this is a-rod getting booed in his return to safeco
274 Days ago

darksideofthewalrus

Ah. I don't hate A-Rod; I would've taken the money and a hitter friendly park too.
274 Days ago

SoundersHawksMariners

Doubt anyone hated Aroid for leaving. It's that he said money wasn't going to be a factor where he signed because he had turned down an M's offer.
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

yeah I have no problem with him leaving, I think he was offered a lot more money from Texas
274 Days ago

americanfootballisboring2

THE HYPOCRISY OF AMERICANS..... The U.S. beat Mexico in soccer 1-0. HOW BORING!! The Mariners beat the Rays 1-0. A perfect game. NO OFFENSE!! HOW EXCITING!!! LET'S CELEBRATE!
274 Days ago

monarchist

The soccer game was historic, but not exactly a classic. The US fielded a patchwork squad but they hung in there and scratched out a win against a better opponent, a $@%!$@ ref notwithstanding. As a soccer fan, I'm slightly embarrassed, but we'll take it. The goal was a beauty. Will quiet the Shea and Fiscal trolls for a while.
274 Days ago

mbs1994

this is about baseball not soccer you idiots
274 Days ago

bigbin324

I wouldn't go that far. Even if soccer was going to get extremely popular in this country it would still have too many other sports to compete against to make American's dominant. Very few countries have football to deal with when it comes to getting the best athletes to play.
274 Days ago

Watjalukinat

btw, if we decided that soccer was important, we would dominate it too. Best a soccer player could do is kicker for our football teams, i.e. the wimpiest position. Though Janikowski could rough you up.
274 Days ago

bigbin324

I'm actually excited that the US finally beat Mexico down there, especially at Azteca. Its possible to enjoy more that one sport. I've actually woken up at 730 on weekends to watch Premier League games, but I know that not everyone is going to agree with me that it is a great sport to watch at a world class level. I can't agree with you thinking a perfect game is nothing though.
274 Days ago

Watjalukinat

Go play your simpleton eurogames. We won't bother you as you run around a field for two hours. Let me try to simplify for you. What the Mariners did, was the equivalent to one of your "football" teams not letting the other team even TOUCH the ball. Now, go back to your tie games.
274 Days ago

monarchist

That's a stupid analogy. The Rays touched the ball plenty, hit it pretty hard a few times. The soccer equivalent would probably be zero shots, on goal or not, but all that takes is a really bad opponent. Soccer is not a "eurogame". It is beyond any shadow of a doubt the world's most popular sport. Baseball isn't even close, mainly because most of it consists of juiced millionaires spitting and scratching themselves whilst waiting for something to happen. Not that I don't like the game, but watching it for the typical 3-4 hours straight is pretty much impossible.
274 Days ago

Chipper Jones HoF 2018

If 60% of baseball games ended 1-0, it wouldn't be exciting either.
274 Days ago

marinersblue96

Soccer is a minor sport here in the states, so what? And while I do like soccer, it's an afterthought compared to baseball or football.
274 Days ago

Yuniverse

I do like soccer. However, how many games do you get with Man U in your backyard? once every... x years? Of course people turnout for those games.
274 Days ago

darksideofthewalrus

"In DC the attendance for Barcelona vs. Manchester United in an EXHIBITION was 82,000. The average attendance for a Redskins game that MATTERS is 77,000." Actually, great point! No sarcasm. However, Spain and London are an hour and a half apart. If I want to fly to New York or Miami, it's a 6 hour flight.
274 Days ago

Chipper Jones HoF 2018

The NFL gets over 80,000 once a year in Wembley. Plus, Barca v. Man Utd is an exhibition of the world's two best clubs at the moment. The fan base to draw from for that exhibition is literally the whole East Coast or more. Silly to compare the two.
274 Days ago

marinersblue96

Football is 100 x's more popular that soccer in the US. You can fill up a stadium anywhere when you have two of the best teams in the world. Hell the Sounders average attendance is better that 80% of the teams in the EPL, but 30k less than the Seahawks.
274 Days ago

Watjalukinat

It's called a Novelty.
274 Days ago

americanfootballisboring2

In DC the attendance for Barcelona vs. Manchester United in an EXHIBITION was 82,000. The average attendance for a Redskins game that MATTERS is 77,000. So what does that say when an EXHIBITION gets more attendance than the NFL regular season? Which is more popular you said?
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

quit acting like a perfect game isn't impressive
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

darksideofthewalrus Or Randy Johnson, or A-Rod (the first time at least when he came back for the All-Star game) I don't boo any former Mariners. ______ A-rod wasn't traded, the mariners actually traded griffey to build around a-rod then he left for the money and randy johnson kinda just quit on the mariners, much different
274 Days ago

SoundersHawksMariners

Randy wasn't booed because most Ms fans understood why he was traded. A-Rod was booed, had monopoly money thrown at him from upper deck. Griffey will always be cheered in Seattle.
274 Days ago

Yuniverse

A-Rod was definitely booed when he came to play at safeco... for several years, in fact.
274 Days ago

marinersblue96

I guess we hate Randy so much that we inducted him the the M's HOF a few weeks ago. Geez, to be hated in such a way.
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

and I believe that was before the all star game
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUO5UMvEw-4
274 Days ago

darksideofthewalrus

I remember the All-Star game after he left, his first appearance, they cheered him. But I haven't seen A-Rod live in a long time.
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

actually he's probably been booed every single game in seattle since he left the mariners
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

ohhh a-rod was derinitley booed his first game are you kidding? iono about randy johnson but I figured he was
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

doesn't mean the mariners were ok with him quitting on the team
274 Days ago

darksideofthewalrus

I'm saying we wouldn't boo Felix and we didn't boo A-Rod or Randy either.
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

eventually lebrons jersey will be retired in cleveland
274 Days ago

Watjalukinat

Perfect game is pretty impressive, but think about Johnny Vander Meer, threw back to bac back no hitters. I'd take that, no score is still no score, but two games of no scoring is awesome.
274 Days ago

americanfootballisboring2

What's the cause for celebration? Be happy that you won the game, sure. But all that jubilation for a team that's in LAST PLACE? Just shows that baseball isn't really a team game and is about individual accomplishments.
274 Days ago

monarchist

Felix and his catcher struck out 12. The other 25 were punched out by the rest of the team. All of whom will now be part of history.
274 Days ago

shayl83

Cause it's always cool to see someone accomplish something that is really, really hard to do.
274 Days ago

lajre

now that's a statement made by someone of questionable intelligence
274 Days ago

bigbin324

americanfootballisboring2 name the sport where people don't celebrate individual accomplishments regardless of the teams record??? I watch guys on 2-14 football teams celebrate a SACK!!!! Soccer teams that are about to be relegated celebrate a converted PK!!! give me a break. 23 times in about 130 years! its special!
274 Days ago

Yuniverse

* 23
274 Days ago

bigbin324

How many games are played a year? It's still rare and not any less special.
274 Days ago

Chipper Jones HoF 2018

*24. 6 times in 2 years.
274 Days ago

marinersblue96

You really know nothing about the game if you think that and who really cares what you think anyways.
274 Days ago

Felix is perfect

ohhh because mariners fans are the first people to be excited about a perfect game, there have been 23 in history, it's ok to get excited about it
274 Days ago

darksideofthewalrus

Valid point on the 4 HR, and just because your team blows, that doesn't mean you can't get excited about an accomplishment. The US economy is in the crapper, but I still celebrate a national accomplishment.
274 Days ago

marinersblue96

It's called being a fan which is exactly the opposite of being on the bandwagon as you previously mentioned. You think Arsenal fans are going to stop rooting for their team after the total disappointing season they had last year? You really are a tool.
274 Days ago

Chipper Jones HoF 2018

A. A perfect game is a team accomplishment. Ask any pitcher who has thrown one. B. People make a huge deal about 4 HRs. C. Why do you insist on trolling American sports boards when you clearly don't understand them?
274 Days ago

americanfootballisboring2

Yeah, and why do people get more excited about that then when a player hits 4 HRs, which has happened less? But still, it shows it's not a team game if they find significance in this amid losing.
274 Days ago

darksideofthewalrus

Don't be a D-bag.
274 Days ago