ESPN Boxing Conversation

Che Diz

Ill give UFC anither five years before they start giving these guys weapons to fight to the death like old time gladiators..."are you not entertained!!"??
28 Days ago

Che Diz

I been hearing the "boxing is dying" debate for almost a decade now and it keeps on rolling, the problem is that UFC has a lot of White fighters who are popular and American kids have fighters to look up to, unfortunately therre isnt a ton of good white boxers. The klit brothers? Theyre Ukranian..And the racist media wishes all these latinos and blacks and asians would go away but it aint happening..
28 Days ago

Che Diz

Fact is UFC is dying! Ever since Brock Lesnar and Chuck Liddel Left! Nobody cares about these bums anymore. The new generation of boxers are too talented too ignore! Plus mayweather and pac man will carry the flag for another 3 to 4 years! What does MMA have? Boring fights? I cant remember the last classic battle i saw from that outfit...
28 Days ago

joeyburrito

Guys, it is dying...just very slowly. The simple fact is that guys like me (in their 30's) grew up being able to watch guys like Hearns, Leonard, Hagler, Duran, Arguello, Pryor, Tyson, etc... on ABC's Wide World of Sports. It's guys like me that still follow boxing and will occasionally order a big PPV fight. It's the NEWER generations of kids that don't have the opportunity to see fights unless they buy the PPV or have HBO/Showtime. Also, the emergence of MMA over the past few years has (for whatever dumb reason) created 2 camps. One that loves MMA and hates boxing or vice versa. The only "household" names out there now are Pacquiao and Mayweather (maybe Cotto) and that's it. It's simple....you've got to show the public what your product is FOR FREE on regular TV to entice them to buy the PPV's or subscribe to HBO.
28 Days ago

cdaddy11

ninja you are a moron, go read about two guys with dyed pink hair and tribal armband taps humping and getting eachother in a rear naked choke you queen.
28 Days ago

ninjaeric1

Is that your social life that your talking about??
27 Days ago

ninjaeric1

MMA will surpass Boxing! There are more knockouts in an MMA fight than Boxing!! If anything I dont want to see 2 guys dance around a ring for 36 min. Outside of the U.S. there are no good fights!!!
28 Days ago

Che Diz

MMA is boring bro! Its a glorified wrestling match with subpar boxing! If the best part of the game is striking why not watch the guys who do it best? Professional boxers...UFC was cool for a minute but its fading..FAST!
28 Days ago

ninjaeric1

Boxing is boring....MMA has explosive K.O's want to talk about fading fast...its called Boxing!
28 Days ago

tyson.nutritionfix

I'd have watched Khan-Maidana again
28 Days ago

P_4_Pviewer

For some clarity in welter weight division! Why doesn't Ortiz fight Alexander, Khan fight Brook in the UK, all this summer. Then Malignaggi can fight Jones in a unification bout, after Jones beats Bailey next month for the IBF strap. Winners could get Pacquiao in the fall or early 2013. But yeah, it does make too much sense!
28 Days ago

vargo05

Yeah, that's way too logical for boxing. Plus, Khan staying at 140 for a couple more fights makes that impossible for now. Someday hopefully.
28 Days ago

sntsbc

I HATE the last sentence, and how Dan being a voice of boxing fans, makes excuses for promoters to do what's in their best interest. Dan, you should write about how you don't want Mayweather Pacquiao because Top rank won't benefit from it. I understand you talk to them and they tell you this, but you have to be aware boxing is dying because of it.
28 Days ago

sntsbc

Well, it might have been too strong of words, but seriously, I'm dissapointed in that there has only been one major boxing event all year. And BLOG HEAD Dan doesn't have the balls to say anything better, plus he is into MMA now and all he does is tweet, the only updates I see here are these comments
28 Days ago

ninjaeric1

The numbers in Boxing is for big fights that happened what once or twice a year. Boxing is not dying but it is fading fast! I am watching MMA and enjoying it very much! Boxing is being controlled by money hungry greedy pigs that is ruining thew sport!
28 Days ago

aldogg2121

I hope it fades off into Bolivian. I've always wanted to visit South America.
28 Days ago

ninjaeric1

Every month there is a payperview and fights that are now being mainstreamed to Fox and other networks. Boxing is fading and that is a fact!!
28 Days ago

GANGREEN73

ufc's lasting outing on fox drew 2.4 rating. that is sad
28 Days ago

seefusensei

As compared to when? How many big fights do you think there are supposed to be every year? That my friend is over saturation. MMA for example does not do a PPV for each and every event.
28 Days ago

lostertoaster

shut up..boxing aint dying..everytime i hear this shot its some idiot who hasnt done his homework on ppv#'s..idiot
28 Days ago

GANGREEN73

that is not what you posted orginally. now you are trying to change the subject. you said the sport is dying. false. now you are trying to say the sport has problems. two different debates
28 Days ago

seefusensei

there have always been problems with the sport. But you have to see it that folks have been saying that Boxing is a dying sport since it first arrived. Its been around longer than anyof the folks on this board have been alive and will likely stay around for a long time still.
28 Days ago

sntsbc

I love boxing,I'm not supporting MMA or nothing like that, but indeed there are problems, which is why we are posting under this type of blog. Zero facts right?
28 Days ago

GANGREEN73

keep talking that the sport is dying with zero facts
28 Days ago

sntsbc

I guess you love the fights youre getting right? Keep talking PPV numbers like it matters, we don't get any of it
28 Days ago

GANGREEN73

that didn't take long. back to boxing is dying. it has been dying for decades now. according to most. yet here it still is drawing huge numbers on ppv's.
28 Days ago

P_4_Pviewer

Dan is fat.
28 Days ago

allencsutton297

I find it hilariously funny that alot of people were lambasting Mayweather when he said a lot of boxers were on that juice and wanted testing like in the olympics. Not so funny now huh? Theres no telling who's doping now. I mean Peterson fought with elevated testosterone and no one caught it! With that being said I would love to see Khan and Maidana. but not on short notice.
28 Days ago

seefusensei

Boxing Fans have always been aware of PED abuse in the sport, heck, that comes with every professional sport in the world. The gripe against Mayweather is the way he is going about it. If you are really trying to clean up Boxing as a sport as a whole, going about it on twitter and namecalling left and right isn't the way to do it. You have to convince the governing bodies of the sport to implement these sport-wide changes.
28 Days ago

seefusensei

Standing 8, sorry you are right, HGH is one of the few, I meant to say that the new test used by USADA "nano trap" actually detects HGH up to weeks longer than standard blood testing used in Olympic style testing (which has to be tested within 1-3 days of injection/use of PED). NanoTrap is a urine test from what I can recall. MIRCERA will be found in blood for over a month after using so Olympic style random testing would not even be needed to test for MIRCERA.
28 Days ago

Standing 8

Thats not true of several PED's. For instance, HGH can ONLY be detected through bloodwork, there is not currently a widely used urine test for HGH anywhere.
28 Days ago

seefusensei

Olympic style testing has not been proven to be more effective than what is currently being used. I've said it time and time again on these boards. There are VERY few PEDs that cannot be tested in urine but can be tested for in blood. And the blood tests that Nevada uses along with USADA can detect smaller traces of MIRCERA (one of the few PEDs that is blood only) in a longer time frame than what Olympic style uses.
28 Days ago

WeasL35

And how better to convince them by having fighters fail the stricter tests after passing the current tests? Its no longer a question about whether the the tests work--its proven the current tests don't-- and is merely up to the commissions to give the financial ok. Its a total PR move and I love it.
28 Days ago

GANGREEN73

only problem with your stance is neither of them was caught using olympic style testing.
28 Days ago

aldogg2121

They are basically the same tests, just different agencies.
28 Days ago

GANGREEN73

weasl the point is floyd insist on the olympic test only. all this does is muddy the waters even more because they are catching guys without the olympic testing. is floyd willing to back off his stance that it's olympic and usada only? we don't know
28 Days ago

WeasL35

True, but they were caught by one of the tests that would have been performed had they been using OSADA testing. So, even though they weren't using the olympic testing, they would have been caught if they had been too.
28 Days ago

robbcorbo

you make a good point... i will admit this has been a little shocking to me lately with these PED issues.. is the standard dope testing that the commission puts out really that light that people have been getting away with it??
28 Days ago

Nique_Olajuwon_Ew1ng

absolutely
28 Days ago

jpicken83

Maidana needs to fight Matthyse in an all Argentinian slugfest.
28 Days ago

care1115@yahoo.com

I second that one!!
28 Days ago

Vicmatic

maidana being trained by robert garcia..damn id love to see those rios maidana sparring sessions..u can probably put that on hbo and it would be better than most fights.
28 Days ago

Figons

If Maidana is gonna fight khan he should start his running now and myabe he will catch Khan. We all know Khan runs like the wind in tough fights.
28 Days ago

billybobjimbojr

HBO and Showtime should work together doing a dual broadcast and make the fight happen between Ortiz and Khan since they're both ready to fight instead of wasting the fight with each probably ending up fighting nobody's.
28 Days ago

aldogg2121

Yeah, because that happens all the time.
28 Days ago

sntsbc

I'm sure you would love it!
28 Days ago

johndyer210

Looks like Maidana will miss two pay days.
28 Days ago

21up43down

if @ 140lbs then yea, but maidana doesn't belong @147lbs, he's not an effective fighter there.
29 Days ago

JA Maldonado

Good for Maidana. He doesn't have to jump into the ring prematurely just because these guys need a dance partner. These are fights, not games, and training needs to be taken seriously. I will say this, though: it would have been interesting to see Maidana v. Ortiz with the Garcia brothers in opposite corners.
29 Days ago

allencsutton297

exactly this is a chance for him to make a big splash by beating a big name opponant, especially Khan. So why would he take it after JUST starting with a new trainer and only have a month to train? That is the height of stupidity. Then if he loses, he couold lose his status as a top contender. Not worth the risk!
28 Days ago