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GeauxBigBlue

whether he was juiced or not, everyone he raced against was just as juiced; therefore, he was easily still the best rider and definitely shouldn't be stripped of anything he won.
364 Days ago

hmsgrace

I'm not sure what the basis is for anyone who thinks he used drugs.....Is it the belief that others used them and he beat them, so he must have been using? Or do they think that he has somehow secretly found a method of passing the drugs screening while using? The only cyclists who are saying he used are ones who have already failed tests and are scrambling to regain any credibility. He passed over 500 drug tests during his career.....He has been subject to numerous attacks by the French cycling organizations and US governments...Enough is enough!!! Leave the man alone. Using the same logic being used against Armstrong, Jack Nicklaus must have been using drugs. After all he won 18 majors, 73 total titles and what was it...another 70+ runners-up. To be that dominant could only happen through the use of drugs. Let's look at tennis and many other sports where an individual has been dominant since we are using the logic (?) that only drugs would allow a player to be dominant.... Hopefully, most people see the stupidity in this type of reasoning...
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shadowborgie1

Let's face it.....the French do not like Americans period. They are all hurt that an AMERICAN dominated their sport for 7 years. Get over it $@%!$@%....
23 Hours ago

fergalishisdef

anyone who watches le tour would know it hasn't been france's sport since
10 Hours ago

fattylove0963

everything you said sounds good but it does not at all add up. I know other cyclists that got caught are bitter. But the concept of the past tests are suspect at best. The basball comparison is a good one because of the fact that the sport (untill it was called on it) actually encouraged its use. They ant the home run and dont care at all about the players well being
Yesterday

scot_01

I don't know. That said, nobody who raced in Armstrong's era is beyond suspicion. If Bruyneel, Celaya, Ferrari and other physician's who were part of USPostal/Discovery/Astana/Radioshack did conspire to implement a doping program and hide it from the sports sanctioning body, (something that I think happens more than people want to admit), they've done serious damage to the sport and deserve to be removed from it.
Yesterday

shadowborgie1

Another witch hunt....
Yesterday

baseballunrated1

I want to see proof that he even overcame cancer. I think that was publicity stunt.
Yesterday

brabs_weather

If we perused people whose caused the housing collapse and economic collapse as we do Lance and Roger, the world would be a much better place.
Yesterday

OnyxHokie

pursued.
Yesterday

3rd Slide

where are the "who cares" and "come on, why are they bothering" buttons?
Yesterday

dffdff

This is USADAs attempting to justify their existence and need for additional funding. Lance Armstrong has got to be the most prolifically drug-tested athlete in history in a system that claimed to be unbeatable. If you believe used performance enhancing drugs, like nearly all of his competition, be upset with the drug testing programs in place. After being unable to prove Armstrong guilty of anything with empirical data, USADA is wasting time and money trying to prove anything with the testimony of a few people who are either making a deal for themselves or have some ax to grind. If USADA wants to catch cheaters, they should devote their resources to improving their testing program rather than trying to change history.
Yesterday

Sigma1042

He definitely used multiple. His test results were complicated due to his medical condition affecting his own testosterone. He used the treatments for his athletic, competitive advantage. He uses testosterone replacement daily. Basically the guy's a real jerk that will do whatever it takes to win, even though he is a great cyclist (one of the best ever, even though he did have an artificial advantage). He really is just like Barry Bonds. His one saving grace to his legacy is the annoying livestrong movement that has actually done good things thanks to the people behind it .
Yesterday

tshark1969

Wow. You must have an insider information same as USADA. You have made up a mind regardless. A guy never failed a test. And you call that complicated test results. You are nothing but sports center watcher parroting what TV experts said. Nothing new. Then again I already think you are a dou.che-m0ron based on your comments regardless your character in real person. Welcome to world of guilty unless proven innocent dou.che bag!
Yesterday

chadley_jville

Whether he juiced or not, the USADA is doing nothing but wasting a bunch of time and money. The dude passed the tests that were given to catch dopers at the time. If he was, he must not have been doing to the extent to alert any of the 500 or so tests he passed. On the other hand, the USADA's star witnesses against Armstrong...Floyd Landis and Tyler Hamilton are guys that doped so much, their tests were off the chart.... they got caught and properly punished...now they want to take everyone and the sport down with them... Classic reaction for not taking responsibility for one's own actions. Instead of trying to hang out Armstrong and damage Live Strong, why don't they take the money they are about to flush down the toilet and use it to educate and set the proper expectations for the youth of the sport so that going forward, the sport really starts to clean itself up...
Yesterday

3OPAH

Ill tell you a joke (USADA to read): Husband and wife decide to go on vacation at the lake known as a mecca and a haven for anglers. The husband loves to come out fishing at dawn and his wife loves to read books in peace. One morning the husband, after he returned from fishing decided to make a little nap, while the wife decided to be alone and took the boat on the lake with some hard effort. Managing to start the engine the boat drifted to a lonely place, dropped the anchor and continued to enjoy the silence and to reading of her book. Soon fishing inspector (aka: USADA) finds her in the boat reading and says: - Good morning, ma'am. What are you doing? - I read a book, she said (and thought isnt that obvious?) - You are on part of the lake reserved for sport fishing, notify her the inspector. - I'm sorry sir, but I do not fish. I just sit in a boat and read a book. - Yes, but in the boat you have all the equipment needed for fishing and as far as I am concerned you could begin with the fishing any moment. I'll be forced to take you with me to the station and file a report against you, he said. - If you really do that, then you know I will also file a report against you, but because of rape, replied the woman. - But, I have not even touched you?, Said the inspector. - Yes, but you have all the necessary tools and as far as I am concerned you could begin at any moment ... - Goodbye madam and enjoy this nice day ... Learning 1: (for USADA) If you read a book in an anglers boat it doesnt mean you are fishing... Learning 2: (for the rest of you) Do not enter in argument with a woman who reads. It is likely that she can also think&
Yesterday

3OPAH

At the age of 12, he began his sporting career as a swimmer and finished fourth in Texas state 1,500-meter freestyle. At 16, Armstrong became a professional triathlete, and became national sprint-course triathlon champion in 1989 and 1990 at 18 and 19, respectively. At age 21 he became one of the youngest riders to ever win the UCI Road World Championship. As a 22 year old, Armstrong had won a stage in the 1993 Tour de France (source: Wiki) Then it came his biggest win in his life he won his battle with CANCER. He had a talent, he survived cancer, what next he thought, lets win some Tours. He is very intelligent. He doesn't need anything else to win a Tour or Ironman. Once up there at that elite level you need that mental toughness to be number one. If you follow tennis, there are many fit and talented players but only Federer, Nadal and Djokovic have the intelligence and the mental toughness to be above others. How easy is for Cadel and Wiggins to be this good. They just have the right ingredients. You need to be tough and smart in todays world, not just the talent and the physical side. They all have something else in common, they know the SECRET and its not drugs. If you are a true person and you believe in God or similar or just your inner-self, smart people know thats more powerful than any short lived drug abuse. Scientifically (or common sense) tells you, you cannot sustain drug abuse for 25 years at elite level. Or he is that lucky and never being caught.
2 Days ago

CaramelMountains

Yet another US agency wasting taxpayers' money. Innocent or guilty, what is gained? Nothing. So why proceed.
2 Days ago

tcborek

Don't have any idea how good a bike racer Lance is, but he does appear to be the best doper in the sport (record winning results, doesn't get caught, still better than all the other dopers). I don't have any doubt that Lance and team had the funding and incentive to be on the cutting edge of doping and outsmart all the passed tests that he keeps trumpeting. And I'd way rather let the testing and adjudication process work, no matter how clunky. Otherwise real sports, w/ natural feats of skill, become the same as a Hollywood movies or a video games. I have way less interest in watching the latter.
2 Days ago

SageFrog

One cycling analyst put it best a few years back. Performance-enhancing drugs have been a part of the Tour de France since its inception. It's too grueling to survive without them. The bodies of the riders who compose the peleton are coursing with PEDs. More cyclists each year test positive and/or admit to using them in order to compete. And Armstrong somehow won seven-consecutive tours *without* using them? Not possible.
2 Days ago

tshark1969

Beating cancer was also not possible. HIV positive for so many years and surviving was also not possible (although it sounds like a Magic).
Yesterday